Not to become a member or a minister but just to understand more deeply. I took a course on Unity about two years ago online. Maya: I'm a student of Unity, the Unity Church. Oprah: Where do you go for solace, for comfort? Are there books that you read? When Maya Angelou needs comforting, where does she turn? It heals the scars left by a larger society. The love of the family, the love of one person can heal. Nobody but nobody makes it out here alone. Oprah: You wrote in one of your poems that "nobody can make it out here alone." Maya: Well, my brother, Bailey, loved me. Oprah: So how did you learn to love yourself at that time? Oprah: And you didn't think of yourself as a pretty girl. Because she had everything-money, beauty, health. If the person was fat or black or white or poor, she never laughed at them. Vivian Baxter had this incredible anger whenever anybody tried to do her down-but this same woman was so kind. Maya: My grandmother Annie Henderson, who raised me from ages 3 to 13, and my mother. Oprah: I have to say, over the years you've been my greatest teacher. And I will not put myself in a situation where that can be done to me again. I had to think of what I had done to other people and how I'd been forgiven. And that was a matter of incredible mental gymnastics. Maya: I had to get to a place where I could forgive the man who raped me when I was 7 years old. Oprah: I've tried to let people know, as you have taught me over the years, that when you forgive somebody, it doesn't necessarily mean you want to invite them to your table. I mean having enough courage to stand up and say, "I forgive. Maya: But you can't forgive without loving. Oprah: I know you often say that love liberates us, but actually, forgiveness does. You are relieved of carrying that burden of resentment. I mean, we ask the Creator to forgive our stupidest actions. It's one of the greatest gifts you can give yourself, to forgive. Oprah: What would you say, sitting here where you are now, to that young calypso singer who appeared in the movie Calypso Heat Wave in 1957?
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